For the past two years, I have been living into a bi-vocational ministry that seemed to make sense to me and no one else. That is, until the lovely folks at the Interfaith Center of New York asked if I would be willing to do an interview for their new podcast series.

For the first time, I found myself speaking out loud about the winding journey that has led me to this moment in my ministry– engaging the full lifecycle in my therapy work with the Psychotherapy & Spirituality Institute, and in the liturgical life of Waffle Church.

The words may be different, but the language is the same. The actions may vary, but the search for meaning is our commonality.

I hope you enjoy.

Host of Interfaith Matters, Maggi Van Dorn, and me.

The Waffle Church – Part 1 of “A Common Language that is Always Present” with Rev. Sarah McCaslin

Psychotherapy and Spirituality – Part 2 of “A Common Language that is Always Present” with Rev. Sarah McCaslin